A Stunning Interview
with Bishop Athanasius Schneider
concerning the Corruption in Amoris Laetitia
“The Church and the world urgently need
intrepid and candid witnesses of the whole truth of the commandment
and of the will of God,
of the whole truth of Christ’s words on marriage. Modern clerical Pharisees
and Scribes, those bishops and cardinals who throw grains of incense
to the neo-pagan idols of gender ideology and concubinage, will not
convince anyone to either believe in Christ or to be ready to offer
their lives for Christ”, said + Athanasius Schneider Auxiliary Bishop
of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana, Kazakhstan in an interview
with Izabella Parowicz of Polonia Magazine
Izabella Parowicz: Your Excellency, what is Your Excellency’s opinion about the Synod?
What is its message to families?
“During the Synod there had been moments of obvious manipulation on
the part of some clerics who held key positions in the editorial and
governing structure of the Synod. The interim report (Relatio post
disceptationem) was clearly a prefabricated text with no reference
to the actual statements of the Synod fathers.
the sections on homosexuality, sexuality and “divorced and remarried”
with their admittance to the sacraments the text represents a radical
neo-pagan ideology. This is the first time in Church history that such
a heterodox text was actually published as a document of an official
meeting of Catholic bishops under the guidance of a pope, even though
the text only had a preliminary character.
be to God and to the prayers of the faithful all over the world that
a consistent number of Synod fathers resolutely rejected such an agenda;
this agenda reflects the corrupt and pagan main stream morality of
our time, which is being imposed globally by means of political pressure
and through the almost all-powerful official mass media, which are loyal
to the principles of the world gender ideology party.
a synod document, even if only preliminary, is a real shame and an indication
to the extent the spirit of the anti-Christian world has already penetrated
such important levels of the life of the Church. This document will
remain for the future generations and for the historians a black mark
which has stained the honour of the Apostolic See.
Those groups of people who had been expecting a change in the Church’s teaching
with regard to the moral issues (e.g. allowing divorced and remarried
people to receive Holy Communion or granting any form of approval
for homosexual unions) were probably disappointed by the content
of the final Relatio. Isn’t there, however, a danger that
questioning and discussing issues that are fundamental for the Church’s
teaching may itself open doors for serious abuses and for similar
attempts to revise this teaching in the future?
“In fact a Divine commandment, in our case the sixth commandment, the
absolute indissolubility of the sacramental marriage, a Divinely established
rule, means those in a state of grave sin cannot be admitted to Holy
Communion. This is taught by Saint Paul in his letter inspired by the
Holy Spirit in 1 Corinthians 11, 27-30, this cannot be put
to the vote, just as the Divinity of Christ would never be put to
a vote. A person who still has the indissoluble sacramental marriage
bond and who in spite of this lives in a stable marital cohabitation
with another person, by Divine law cannot be admitted to Holy Communion.
To do so would be a public statement by the Church nefariously legitimizing
a denial of the indissolubility of the Christian marriage and at the
same time repealing the sixth commandment of God: “Thou shalt not
commit adultery”. No human institution not even the Pope or an
Ecumenical Council has the authority and the competency to invalidate
even in the slightest or indirect manner one of the ten Divine commandments
or the Divine words of Christ: “What therefore God has joined together,
let man not separate.” (Mat. 19:6).
Regardless of this lucid truth which was taught constantly and unchangingly
— because unchangeable — through all the ages by the Magisterium of
the Church up to our days as for instance in “Familiaris consortio”
of Saint John Paul II, in the Catechism of the Catholic Church and by
Pope Benedict XVI, the issue of the admissibility to Holy Communion
of the so called “divorced and remarried” has been put to the vote in
the Synod. This fact is in itself grievous and represents an attitude
of clerical arrogance towards the Divine truth of the Word of God.
The attempt to put the Divine truth and the Divine Word to a vote
is unworthy of those who as representatives of the Magisterium have
to hand over zealously as good and faithful rules (cf. Math 24, 45)
the Divine deposit.
By admitting the “divorced and remarried” to Holy Communion
those bishops establish a new tradition on their own volition and
transgressing thereby the commandment of God, as Christ once rebuked
the Pharisees and Scribes. (cf. Math 15: 3) And what is still aggravating,
is the fact that such bishops try to legitimize their infidelity to
Christ’s word by means of arguments such as “pastoral need”,
“mercy”, “openness to the Holy Spirit”. Moreover they
have no fear and no scruples to pervert in a Gnostic manner the real
meaning of these words labeling at the same time those who
oppose them and defend the immutable Divine commandment and the true
non-human tradition as rigid, scrupulous or traditionalist.
In fact the bishops who support Holy Communion for “divorced remarried”
are the new Pharisees and Scribes because they neglect the commandment
of God, contributing to the fact that out of the body and of the heart
of the “divorced remarried” continue to “proceed adulteries” (Math 15:
19), because they want an exteriorly “clean” solution and to appear
“clean” as well in the eyes of those who have power (the social media,
a sad reflection on the spiritual quality of the Catholic episcopacy
in our days.
will surely only increase the doctrinal confusion among the priests
and the faithful, being in the air, that Divine commandments and Divine
words of Christ and those of the apostle Paul are put at the disposal
of human decision making groups. One Cardinal who openly and
strongly supported the issue of Holy Communion for “divorced and remarried”
and even the shameful statements on homosexual “couples” in the preliminary
Relatio, was dissatisfied with the final Relatio, and declared impudently:
“The glass is half-full”, and analogously he said that one has to work
that next year at the Synod it will be full. We must believe firmly
that God will dissipate the plans of dishonesty, infidelity and betrayal.
Christ holds infallibly the rudder of the boat of His Church in midst
of such a big storm. We believe and trust in the very ruler of the Church,
in Our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the truth.
Izabella Parowicz: We are currently experiencing a
culmination of aggression against the family; this aggression is
accompanied by a tremendous confusion in the area of science about
human and human identity. Unfortunately, there are certain members
of Church hierarchy who, while discussing these matters, express
opinions that contradict the teaching of Our Lord. How should we
talk with those people who become victims of this confusion in order
to strengthen their faith and to help them towards salvation?
“We have to encourage ordinary Catholics to be faithful to the Catechism
they have learned, to be faithful to the clear words of Christ in the
Gospel, to be faithful to the faith their fathers and forefathers handed
over to them. We have to organize circles of studies and conferences
about the perennial teaching of the Church on the issue of marriage
and chastity, inviting especially young people and married couples.
We have to found and promote youth groups of pure hearts, family groups,
groups of Catholic spouses, who will be committed to the fidelity of
their marriage vows. We have to organize groups which will help morally
and materially broken families, single mothers, groups who will assist
with prayer and with good counsel separated couples, groups and persons
who will help “divorced and remarried” people to start a process of
serious conversion, i.e. recognizing with humility their sinful situation
and abandoning with the grace of God the sins which violate the commandment
of God and the sanctity of the sacrament of marriage.
During the Synod, Archbishop Gądecki from Poznań and some other
distinguished prelates were publicly expressing their disagreement
with the fact that the results of the discussions departed from
the perennial teaching of the Church. Is there a hope that, amid
this confusion, there will be an awakening of members of clergy
and those faithful who were so far unaware of the fact that, in
the very Church’s bosom, there are people who undermine the teaching
of Our Lord?
“Cardinal George Pell characterized the liberal sexual agenda and
the alleged merciful and pastoral support of Holy Communion for “divorced
remarried” during the Synod very aptly, saying that this is only the
tip of the iceberg and a kind of a Trojan horse in the Church. That
in the very bosom of the Church, there are people who undermine the
teaching of Our Lord became an obvious fact and one for the whole world
to see thanks to the internet and the work of some Catholic journalists
who were not indifferent to what was happening to the Catholic faith
which they consider to be the treasure of Christ.
I was pleased to see that some Catholic journalists and internet bloggers
behaved as good soldiers of Christ and drew attention to this clerical
agenda of undermining the perennial teaching of Our Lord. Cardinals,
bishops, priests, Catholic families, Catholic young people have to say
to themselves: I refuse to conform to the neo-pagan spirit of this world,
even when this spirit is spread by some bishops and cardinals; I
will not accept their fallacious and perverse use of holy Divine mercy
and of “new Pentecost”; I refuse to throw grains of incense before the
statue of the idol of the gender ideology, before the idol of second
marriages, of concubinage, even if my bishop would do so, I will not
do so; with the grace of God I will choose to suffer rather than betray
the whole truth of Christ on human sexuality and on marriage ...
Modern clerical Pharisees and Scribes, those bishops and cardinals who
throw grains of incense to the neo-pagan idols of gender ideology and
concubinage, will not convince anyone to either believe in Christ or
to be ready to offer their lives for Christ. ... We can add: the revealed
and unchangeably transmitted Divine truth about human sexuality and
marriage will bring true freedom to the souls inside and outside the
Church. In midst of the crisis of the Church and the bad moral and doctrinal
example of some bishops of his time Saint Augustine comforted
the simple faithful with these words: “Whatsoever we bishops may
be, you are safe, who have God for your Father and His Church for your
mother” (Contra litteras Petiliani III, 9, 10).
+ Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint
Mary in Astana, Kazakhstan.
This interview was published in the latest issue of “Polonia Christiana”
All emphases in the way of bold text have been added.
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